This is a post about tonight’s episode - don’t read it if you haven’t watched it yet.
So, I can only assume that the “changing the rules” Ben was referring to was the killing of an innocent person. I think that both Ben and Charles are somehow obligated to follow the same set of rules (perhaps “by the island”, whatever that means), and at least one of them is based around the “good people” thing they’ve alluded to throughout the show, specifically forbidding them (personally) from harming them.
Just a quick reaction theory, but I thought I’d throw it out there…
Danielle Rousseau - I’m guessing we’re going to see her back story sometime this season, especially if she’s going to die after getting shot last time.
I suspect we’ll also see a Libby - Whidmore connection from the past at some point, probably this season. I think it’s likely that Whidmore was involved in her giving the boat to Desmond. If that’s the case, then it also raises a few interesting questions: was she on the flight to intentionally get onto the island, and (if so) how did she / Whidmore know that plane was going to crash - perhaps it was intentional, etc.
I think we’re going to get at least one surprising or interesting flashback (or forward) from a character that we haven’t seen one for before. I’d love to see one from Richard, although I don’t know if they’ll do that this season.
Other longshots that I don’t know whether they’re going to eventually bring back in to the story are Thomas (Claire’s ex-boyfriend / Aaron’s dad), and Hurley’s friend from the institution that kept repeating the numbers over and over again. Neither of them will have a dedicated flashback (unless they become major characters), but it would be cool to see their backstories overlap with the island in some way at some point in the past.
I just heard on a caller on the recording of the Jay & Jack 24 hour podcast state a very interesting observation that I hadn’t thought of before, but I think it has to play into things somehow.
So far, every single one of the Oceanic Six that we’ve seen (apart from Aaron, if he is really included as one of the six) was on the other side of the island when Desmond turned the failsafe key.
Jack, Kate, and Hurley (and Michael, even though he might not be considered one of the six) were off on their mission to get captured. Sayid and Sun (and Jin, but it doesn’t sound like he makes it) were on the boat, also on the other side of the island.
As far as I can tell, the only other person we’ve seen off island in the future is Ben. This means that every person (other than Aaron) that we’ve seen off island was also on the other side of the island at the time of the failsafe being triggered. It seems like that can’t possibly be a coincidence.
Since we just had a Juliet episode recently, I’m wondering when we’ll see the rest of her story.
Specifically, when does she turn from a whimpering sucker into the hardened, lying judo master we see today? It had to have happened sometime during that three years, but I’m wondering why.
My best guess is that (based on what we’ve seen now) is that she was telling the truth to Jack in season 3 - there actually was a subset within “the others” who were planning on overthrowing Ben. I believe that she was probably a member of that group, along with Goodwin and probably Ethan.
We’ll see how it plays out.
Wondering if anyone else has checked out the “Missing Pieces” web episodes? “Room 23″ is particularly interesting…
Responding to this recent theory reminded me of a question that always comes to my mind whenever I’m reminded of the fact that the producers had originally planned to have Jack die at the end of the very first episode.
Since they clearly had a series-spanning plot outline from the very beginning (not details, but major points), I wonder which character(s) they originally had planned to play some of the parts that Jack’s character now does.
Obviously they also evolve the show and the characters as it progresses, so much of the Jack stuff might not have been a part of the original concept at all, but he’s such a prominent figure that I can’t help but assume that some parts of his story must have been a part of that up front design, and they must (I’m assuming) have had an idea of which character(s) would fit those parts since Jack wasn’t originally supposed to be around.
Ben mentions Jack’s decision costing the lives of 40 people, but I don’t think he’s talking about Jack’s group.
I believe he’s talking about the inhabitants of the island that have been there for a long time - the “others” like Richard, etc. Since I believe that the island’s healing factor is what keeps them from aging (because it’s constantly healing them as their bodies break down during the normal aging process), some of the “others” who have been there for a long time could easily be very, very old.
If they are forced to leave the island, they might die immediately once they get out of “range” of its ability to heal them. This could even apply to some of the Losties as well, especially ones like Rose who we know had a terminal disease before coming to the island.
In any event, I suspect that the boat people will coax some of the people willing to be “rescued” (Jack and his group) into leaving just by telling them that they’re rescuing them. They may possibly even manipulate them into helping them battle the “others” and subdue Locke, on the pretext that they need to do that in order to get free of the island.
My bet is that during this battle, Jack knocks Locke out and they eventually triumph over the “others”, and leave the island thinking that they were victorious. Then, once they are clear of the island and will not be able to find it again, it becomes clear to Jack that it was a mistake. Either people start dying outside of the island’s protection and/or Locke wakes up and clues Jack in to what’s happening, and/or he finds out how Whidmore is going to abuse the power of the island.
I don’t necessarily think we can assume that Walt’s appearance means that he’s there on the island again as a real, physical person. So far he’s no different than any of the other appearances of people on the island who may or may not be real and/or dead.
Heck, with Walt we even have precedence for him appearing when he wasn’t really there, and you also have precedent with Locke seeing and interacting verbally with people who have formerly moved on (such as Boone).
I’ll have to revise my theory expressed in this post from last week a bit in light of tonight’s events, but I still believe that Ben has been trying to prevent Locke from taking his place in terms of having the closest connection to the island, it’s just that now I’m tacking on another reason for it: Ben knew that Locke could not make the hard choices needed to protect the island, and he was proven right tonight by Locke not being able to kill Jack in order to do it.
In the future, that is…
My theory is that it’s Locke who was in the coffin. The way I see it going down is this:
Whidmore (or whoever is on the boat) fakes a rescue in an attempt to take control of the island in order to learn / exploit its secret properties. Jack and the others cooperate with them, even to the point of disabling Locke who will still be fighting to prevent it. Whidmore carts everyone (including an unconcious / incapacitated Locke) off the island, which they think they want at the time, until they get home and Locke wakes up and reveals to them that it was a mistake to let the island fall into the hands of Whidmore.
Perhaps he only tells Jack, or perhaps Jack is the only one who believes him, but either way, it’s fairly obvious that Jack knows now that his decision in tonights episode was wrong.
PS - I called the “flash forward” bit in the opening sequence, and believed it for the most part throughout the episode. My faith did waver a bit when Jack called for them to go get his dad upstairs, but I did quickly realize that he was just saying that because he wasn’t in his right mind at the time.
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