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		<title>By: jared</title>
		<link>http://underwaterhatch.com/2007/04/11/straining-credibility/comment-page-1/#comment-2729</link>
		<dc:creator>jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 09:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Getting back to the original point of &lt;em&gt;this&lt;/em&gt; post, I&#039;m glad to see they addressed my concerns above (regarding Sayid demanding some answers) pretty specifically in this episode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting back to the original point of <em>this</em> post, I&#8217;m glad to see they addressed my concerns above (regarding Sayid demanding some answers) pretty specifically in this episode.</p>
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		<title>By: jared</title>
		<link>http://underwaterhatch.com/2007/04/11/straining-credibility/comment-page-1/#comment-2728</link>
		<dc:creator>jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 04:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still don&#039;t see any cases when it definitely wasn&#039;t tied to the ground. 

It certainly could have been touching the ground when it pulled out the pilot, just like it appeared to be when killing Eko (see link above) - it just looked like an arm coming up from the ground, even though it reached very high.

Same for the top of the trees, etc. - it can reach very high, but not totally disconnect from the ground, which it would need to do to clear that fence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still don&#8217;t see any cases when it definitely wasn&#8217;t tied to the ground. </p>
<p>It certainly could have been touching the ground when it pulled out the pilot, just like it appeared to be when killing Eko (see link above) &#8211; it just looked like an arm coming up from the ground, even though it reached very high.</p>
<p>Same for the top of the trees, etc. &#8211; it can reach very high, but not totally disconnect from the ground, which it would need to do to clear that fence.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 04:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are two main points where the monster isn&#039;t tied to the ground. When it clearly flew through the air in the first episode (I&#039;ll replay it for you tonight but your right they could go back on that) and the other would be when the monster pulled that guy from the plane, that plane was pretty high. I also remember when the monster came out of the ground last week it went higher then the fence. It broke out of the ground and collected together.

Also in the first episode the top of the trees were ruffled.

My theory is there are multiples and they collect into one. It doesn&#039;t make sense that they could fly but they need to explain the intances were it wasn&#039;t. 

I do think it&#039;s tied to the ground and is mechanically controlled from something in the ground. That&#039;s why it pops out of the ground and tried to pull Locke down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are two main points where the monster isn&#8217;t tied to the ground. When it clearly flew through the air in the first episode (I&#8217;ll replay it for you tonight but your right they could go back on that) and the other would be when the monster pulled that guy from the plane, that plane was pretty high. I also remember when the monster came out of the ground last week it went higher then the fence. It broke out of the ground and collected together.</p>
<p>Also in the first episode the top of the trees were ruffled.</p>
<p>My theory is there are multiples and they collect into one. It doesn&#8217;t make sense that they could fly but they need to explain the intances were it wasn&#8217;t. </p>
<p>I do think it&#8217;s tied to the ground and is mechanically controlled from something in the ground. That&#8217;s why it pops out of the ground and tried to pull Locke down.</p>
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		<title>By: jared</title>
		<link>http://underwaterhatch.com/2007/04/11/straining-credibility/comment-page-1/#comment-2723</link>
		<dc:creator>jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 02:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Vance, I was assuming you were commenting on &lt;a href=&quot;http://underwaterhatch.com/136/smoke-monster-tied-to-the-ground/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my post about the monster being tied to the ground&lt;/a&gt;. If so, I can move these comments over there. If not, I don&#039;t see what you&#039;re commenting about in this post. (I&#039;ll go ahead and move them later tonight unless you say otherwise).

OK, I just went and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXHfHZZMxYw&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;watched it&lt;/a&gt;, and there&#039;s no part of that scene that suggests the &quot;monster&quot; isn&#039;t anchored to the ground the whole time.

I&#039;m not saying it definitively CAN&#039;T fly, but that certainly would explain why it couldn&#039;t go over the barrier. Anyone&#039;s welcome to point out a segment where we do see the monster &quot;flying&quot;. I&#039;m not counting frame-by-frame only references or fleeting passing by of what appear to be smaller versions either (since I think most of those are still pretty close to the ground, even if the whole cloud isn&#039;t touching the ground).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Vance, I was assuming you were commenting on <a href="http://underwaterhatch.com/136/smoke-monster-tied-to-the-ground/" rel="nofollow">my post about the monster being tied to the ground</a>. If so, I can move these comments over there. If not, I don&#8217;t see what you&#8217;re commenting about in this post. (I&#8217;ll go ahead and move them later tonight unless you say otherwise).</p>
<p>OK, I just went and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXHfHZZMxYw" rel="nofollow">watched it</a>, and there&#8217;s no part of that scene that suggests the &#8220;monster&#8221; isn&#8217;t anchored to the ground the whole time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying it definitively CAN&#8217;T fly, but that certainly would explain why it couldn&#8217;t go over the barrier. Anyone&#8217;s welcome to point out a segment where we do see the monster &#8220;flying&#8221;. I&#8217;m not counting frame-by-frame only references or fleeting passing by of what appear to be smaller versions either (since I think most of those are still pretty close to the ground, even if the whole cloud isn&#8217;t touching the ground).</p>
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		<title>By: jared</title>
		<link>http://underwaterhatch.com/2007/04/11/straining-credibility/comment-page-1/#comment-2722</link>
		<dc:creator>jared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 01:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t see the monster &quot;flying&quot; then either. I&#039;ll have to rewatch it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t see the monster &#8220;flying&#8221; then either. I&#8217;ll have to rewatch it.</p>
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		<title>By: Vance</title>
		<link>http://underwaterhatch.com/2007/04/11/straining-credibility/comment-page-1/#comment-2721</link>
		<dc:creator>Vance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 01:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>um... guess you missed that part when eko got killed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>um&#8230; guess you missed that part when eko got killed.</p>
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